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daniel_iversen 2 hours ago [-]
I've just started listening to the book "Brave new world" (no spoilers please!) and this is literally how the book begins (but with humans) - what could possibly go wrong!
mplanchard 2 hours ago [-]
No spoilers, but I used to think, along the lines of Neil Postman in Amusing Ourselves to Death, that Brave New World wound up being the more accurate picture of future society than 1984, despite being less well-known and referenced in cultural consciousness.
Unfortunately, it seems like the former may be enabling the latter, so we may end up with a “porque no los dos” situation.
kombine 1 hours ago [-]
I haven't read Brave New World but "We" by Evgeny Zamyatin left a similar impression on me, it's more subtle than 1984. It came out earlier than both books by the Western authors - even though Zamyatin was inspired while working in England in early 20th century.
warumdarum 1 hours ago [-]
Actually.. not much. Education is taken care of.
Gestation is taken care of.
You grow up your young with a company instead of a family, if you want to be involved at all. All things that could go wrong, already sort of have over the last ten years and have been accordingly ironed out of humanity.
Sexuality as couples is already gone for large parts of the yoynger population.
Culturally the family is as good as gone. Woman have kicked themselves enthusiastically out of all roles the species had to offer, except for that of work drone and that is going obsolete right now. They and their allies (almost all of those allies cheer on the ideas of incubators) wildly detest the idea of going back to traditional roles. Society has to come from somewhere and this is somewhere.. nothing of value was lost..
guerrilla 2 hours ago [-]
The future is getting creepier by the day. You know this'll be used in food farming.
maxerickson 1 hours ago [-]
Why? The current method is cheap.
jeroenvlek 1 hours ago [-]
Am I the only one wondering if it's 26 chickens at once from a single artificial egg or they just succeeded 26 times with different eggs? Rationally it probably has to be the latter, but the title confuses me.
yewenjie 2 hours ago [-]
Is this a company and not a research lab doing this? What's the economic imperative for funding this?
jfengel 2 hours ago [-]
They're a foundation working on "de extinction". They want to hatch dodos.
Avicebron 2 hours ago [-]
I'm holding out hope we can get the moa birds back in my lifetime.
hypfer 2 hours ago [-]
Yes, yes. Dodos.
The endgame of this is Dodos.
dandellion 2 hours ago [-]
Yes, first they'll focus on normal dodos. Then, they'll try very large Dodos. After that, very, very ancient dodos. Followed by island dodos. Then they might set up a whole island that people can visit, full of all kinds of dodos. They'll do tours with self driving cars so people can see all the dodos from a safe distance.
incognito124 2 hours ago [-]
One thing is for sure: they'll still be using a UNIX system
fontain 2 hours ago [-]
Scientific consensus is that dodos cannot open doors so it’ll be very safe as long as visitors stay in their cars.
fragmede 2 hours ago [-]
They shall spare no expense.
fontain 2 hours ago [-]
A velociraptor skeleton is worth around $10 million. Hatch a few dozen per year and you’re making great money.
onion2k 2 hours ago [-]
[Colossal Biosciences] has raised over $600 million and carries a valuation exceeding $10 billion.
You're not making a return on that from selling velocirator skeletons. Nor is that sort of money in dodos and maos.
Human cloning on the other hand...
fragmede 2 hours ago [-]
It's been a while since high school biology class, and I can't ask my sister right now, but I don't think humans are born in eggs. What does an artificial egg hatching chickens have to do with cloning humans?
himata4113 1 hours ago [-]
Technically speaking, we could engineer it in a way where humans are born from eggs. It would just have to be a very big egg and would also have to continue growing in an incubator after hatching much like chickens rather than the standard womb senario.
... probably just easier to grow babies in a tube
stavros 1 hours ago [-]
I mean, if you can make a velociraptor, the skeleton isn't the bit you'll make money on.
FrustratedMonky 2 hours ago [-]
Maybe short term, pumping out chickens. For food.
Long term, maybe chickens are just the test case and they will pump out human slaves. Replicants.
vitally3643 2 hours ago [-]
No. This is a very stupid and uneducated thing to suggest. Do better.
2 hours ago [-]
fragmede 2 hours ago [-]
To be fair, artificial womb technology would really mess with society.
himata4113 1 hours ago [-]
That's very likely to be the future of the human race where governments produce, train and push out artificial humans like a factory. Well if we don't solve aging and robotics by then, then we'll probably just stop having babies altogether or at least not in a quantity that matters.
FrustratedMonky 2 hours ago [-]
"very stupid and uneducated thing to suggest"
1. Take a common trope in fiction and research for a hundred years. With long known commonly linked ramifications.
2. A company actually starts doing it.
3. Suggest a link
4. -> Call it Stupid.
Yeah. Don't worry about it at all. Nothing to see here.
stavros 2 hours ago [-]
If we wanted to pump out human slaves now, I don't think the main obstacle is that we can't find enough women to bear them.
FrustratedMonky 1 hours ago [-]
If they are born of woman, they would be human.
If they are made, we can re-label them as machines and give them lesser rights. And make ourselves feel better about treating them as lower class by some 'justification', like they don't have souls.
Perhaps some gene editing to give them 'blue' skin, some non-historically-biased-color to identify them.
Really. There are ton of books with these themes already. I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said, and now a company is doing it, so why am I getting downvoted.
Dylan16807 1 hours ago [-]
Gene editing is a whole different topic. And only the very first one would need to be "born of woman".
Artificial eggs are basically irrelevant to the dystopia you're describing.
stavros 1 hours ago [-]
Yeah but there's also the book where we make people in a lab and they're great and everyone lives happily ever after forever. Don't cherry-pick your data.
FrustratedMonky 1 hours ago [-]
So I'm not providing a good literary survey of books with similar tropes and providing some of the positive ones? There are literally half dozen very famous negative examples, but I didn't do good enough search to find a positive one?
That would be like every comment on AI should include some example from The Culture Series as an example that all this AI stuff could great.
stavros 1 hours ago [-]
No man, it's just that saying "this scenario is popular because it makes for a good story therefore it'll happen in reality" is an absurd point to make.
fragmede 1 hours ago [-]
What is "it", exactly? I have probably read some of the same dystopian science fiction novels as you have. But this is Jurassic Park, not A Brave New World.
eutropia 1 hours ago [-]
Colossal Biosciences
and its
goal of resurrecting extinct bird species
"bird species"?
C'mon.
They want to do a Jurassic Park.
lekevicius 2 hours ago [-]
I always knew that egg came first.
andy99 2 hours ago [-]
requires real hen for fertilization and laying
paul_ny 1 hours ago [-]
Huh… from the original Nat Geo article:
scientists inspect eggs newly laid by real hens within 24 to 48 hours. They select the most promising ones, crack them open, and delicately pour the contents—everything but the shell—into the artificial egg structure. But everything that happened before then, from fertilization to egg laying, required a real chicken.
bushwart 1 hours ago [-]
life finds a way
VladVladikoff 2 hours ago [-]
This article is so strange. It is written by the company, but written in a way that an outsider would write.
> Colossal has not released its hatch rate for the 26 chickens, which limits direct comparison to prior shell-free systems. The announcement was also made without an accompanying peer-reviewed paper or publicly released dataset, meaning independent scientists have not yet been able to evaluate the underlying methodology.
x-yl 2 hours ago [-]
It says at the bottom:
> This story is based on original reporting by Christina Larson for National Geographic. Read the full feature on National Geographic
Unfortunately, it seems like the former may be enabling the latter, so we may end up with a “porque no los dos” situation.
Sexuality as couples is already gone for large parts of the yoynger population. Culturally the family is as good as gone. Woman have kicked themselves enthusiastically out of all roles the species had to offer, except for that of work drone and that is going obsolete right now. They and their allies (almost all of those allies cheer on the ideas of incubators) wildly detest the idea of going back to traditional roles. Society has to come from somewhere and this is somewhere.. nothing of value was lost..
The endgame of this is Dodos.
You're not making a return on that from selling velocirator skeletons. Nor is that sort of money in dodos and maos.
Human cloning on the other hand...
... probably just easier to grow babies in a tube
Long term, maybe chickens are just the test case and they will pump out human slaves. Replicants.
1. Take a common trope in fiction and research for a hundred years. With long known commonly linked ramifications.
2. A company actually starts doing it.
3. Suggest a link
4. -> Call it Stupid.
Yeah. Don't worry about it at all. Nothing to see here.
If they are made, we can re-label them as machines and give them lesser rights. And make ourselves feel better about treating them as lower class by some 'justification', like they don't have souls.
Perhaps some gene editing to give them 'blue' skin, some non-historically-biased-color to identify them.
Really. There are ton of books with these themes already. I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said, and now a company is doing it, so why am I getting downvoted.
Artificial eggs are basically irrelevant to the dystopia you're describing.
That would be like every comment on AI should include some example from The Culture Series as an example that all this AI stuff could great.
C'mon.
They want to do a Jurassic Park.
> Colossal has not released its hatch rate for the 26 chickens, which limits direct comparison to prior shell-free systems. The announcement was also made without an accompanying peer-reviewed paper or publicly released dataset, meaning independent scientists have not yet been able to evaluate the underlying methodology.
> This story is based on original reporting by Christina Larson for National Geographic. Read the full feature on National Geographic
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/artificia...